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« on: November 30, 2007, 10:17:34 PM »
Namjena ove teme nije podsticanje na upotrebu nedozvoljenih sredstava i svako ko upotrijebi ovdje iznesene savjete cini to na svoju vlastitu odgovornost!!!

Ovu temu otvaram sa ciljem da ovdje odgovorima na neke PM koje dobivam u vezi steroida mozda pomognem i ostatku clanova.
Mislim da je steta da se takva pitanja nepostavljaju na forumu.
Posiljaoce PM cu izostaviti jer su svakako i htjeli anonimnost i to postujem.
Nadam se da ce i drugi koji eventualno dobijaju slicna pitanja ovdje postaviti odgovore da bi mogli pomoci jedni drugima.
Napominjem da necu bas sva pitanja ovdje postavljati da se neki mozda neprepadnu :rolleyes01:

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sele?
oprosti sto smetam
bi li mi mogao nesto napisati u vezi steroida i prve kure?
osigurao sam sebi  isobolica, kontao sam da prvu kuru uradim sa testosteronom
mozes li mi ti nesto lagano prepisati?!
hvala puno

Nadam se da si procitao ove teme i to detaljno:

http://www.exyu-fitness.com/forum/index.php/topic,1857.0.html

http://www.exyu-fitness.com/forum/index.php/topic,1858.0.html

Prvi ciklus je uvijek i najlaksi netreba nista komplikovati jer komplikovanjem nebi dobio nista.
Priije svega nauci kako ces pravilno aplicirati steroide dakle mjesto uboda (koji dio tijela), koje igle, aspiracija,sterilnost sredstava i povrsine u koju ubadas.

To je osnova koju ako nebudes postovao mozes upasti u velike probleme!!!

Prjedlog za ciklus je 500mg testosterona predpostavljam da hoces depo da koristis, sedmicno.
Ako ti se svidi ubadanje  :wow: idealno bi bilo da to podijelis na dvije doze dakle 2x250mg.
To radis zbog sto stabilnjih nivoa steroida u krvi.

Trebao mi minimalno 8 sedmica bolje 10-12 ici sa ovih 500mg.

Opcionalno uz ovo bi islo:
Dianabol 20-30mg svaki dan prve 4 sedmice ciklusa.
Deca durabolin 200-400mg sedmicno.

Ako budes isao samo sa testom neces pogrijesiti dakle ostavljam tebi da izaberes hoces li i sta ces ubaciti.
Moze to biti samo dianabol ili samo deca ili obadvoje.
Deca durabolin uvijek iskljuci dvije sedmice prije nego sto iskljucis test.npr. ako se odlucis za 10 sedmica testa, decu ces iskljuciti u 8 sedmici.
Prije nego sto bilo sta pocnes prvo nabavi nolvadex da ga imas pri ruci jer neznas kako ces reagovati tj. koliko si sklon ginekomastijji.
Mozes opcionalno piti proviron tokom ciklusa ili 10mg nolvadexa svaki dan.

Ako nesto nije jasno imas PM ;)
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The pros are using good old-fashioned Testosterone, Deca, Dianabol, insulin in the off-season, and GH pre-contest. Nothing fancy. But they're the pros because they're gifted, dedicated, and have been at it a long freaking time. Anybody that tells you different is either full of shit or trying to sell you garbage.



My goals are very simple:

1. Break The Law
2. Look Good Naked

Steroids will cause your kidneys to explode, your heart to blow a ventricle, and your liver to squirt out of your arse, fly across the room, and knock the cat off the futon.

The most obvious symptom is death which would hardly be missed by even the most focused and intensive bodybuilder.

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« Reply #1 on: November 30, 2007, 11:35:54 PM »
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Kako da znam da li je moj naposim orginal (ima li neki nacin).Po slikama izgleda OK
Hvala

Jedan od nacina je slika orginalnog proizvoda ali problem je u tome kako znati da je slika orginalna i da je nije postavio upravo neki od "fejkera".Naravno mozes ici i na to da probas i sam skontas jer stvari kao sto je dianabol ili androl se definitivno osjete ako su orginal.
Najsigurniji nacin je laboratorijska analiza ali sumnjam da ti imas pristup takvom necemu.

Jedan od underground nacina je sljedeci ;)
Nabavi sulfatne kiseline (koristi se u akumulatorima) stavi 3 ml u posudu i u mikrovalnu na 30 sekundi da bi isparila voda.
Izdrobi tabletu dianabola i ubaci je u posudu.Dianabol bi trebao dobiti "krvavo" crvenu boju  bez obzira na boju tablete.

Nadam se da sam bio od pomoci ;)
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The pros are using good old-fashioned Testosterone, Deca, Dianabol, insulin in the off-season, and GH pre-contest. Nothing fancy. But they're the pros because they're gifted, dedicated, and have been at it a long freaking time. Anybody that tells you different is either full of shit or trying to sell you garbage.



My goals are very simple:

1. Break The Law
2. Look Good Naked

Steroids will cause your kidneys to explode, your heart to blow a ventricle, and your liver to squirt out of your arse, fly across the room, and knock the cat off the futon.

The most obvious symptom is death which would hardly be missed by even the most focused and intensive bodybuilder.

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« Reply #2 on: December 01, 2007, 03:08:08 PM »
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Da li mogu zamjeniti clenbuterol za albuterol i da li je to ustvari ista stvar?

Albuterol je beta agonist 2 generacije i stimulira B1 i B2 receptore dok je clenbuterol beta agonist 3 generacije i teoretski stimulira samo B2 receptore i zbog toga je izbjegnuto povecanje otkucaja srca il ti ubrzan rad srca.Takoder albuterol ne mobilizira masnoce iz masnih celija i neposjeduje antikatabolicka svojstva.

Izbor je jasan ;)
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The pros are using good old-fashioned Testosterone, Deca, Dianabol, insulin in the off-season, and GH pre-contest. Nothing fancy. But they're the pros because they're gifted, dedicated, and have been at it a long freaking time. Anybody that tells you different is either full of shit or trying to sell you garbage.



My goals are very simple:

1. Break The Law
2. Look Good Naked

Steroids will cause your kidneys to explode, your heart to blow a ventricle, and your liver to squirt out of your arse, fly across the room, and knock the cat off the futon.

The most obvious symptom is death which would hardly be missed by even the most focused and intensive bodybuilder.

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« Reply #3 on: December 01, 2007, 04:14:39 PM »
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i sta znaci SHBG?
Zasto je smanjenje shbg bitno?

SHBG znaci "sex hormone-binding globulin" ili na nasem jeziku "globulin-nosac spolnih hormona".
E sad da bi shvatio pricu ...
Kad se prica o testosteronu bitno je da se zna razlika izmedu slobodnog i vezanog ili neaktivnog testosterona.
Testosteron je neaktivan u drugom slucaju zato sto je vezan za SHBG i u manjoj mjeri albumin.
Molekule steroida su vezane za SHBG koji se nalazi u krvi sto ih sprijecava da se "spoje" na steroidne receptore.Jedino slobodni testosteron moze pokazati svoje karakteristike sto je i logicno.
97-99% ukupnog testosterona u nasem tijelu je u vezanom stanju, a samo 1-3% totalnog testosterona je u slobodnom stanju.

Obicno za SHBG se uzima proviron zbog njegove mogucnosti da se veze sa SHBG.
Vezivanjem za SHBG drugi steroidi koji se apliciraju ostaju u slobodnom stanju cime dobivamo vecu iskoistljivost a i smanjuje se potreba za vecim doziranjem.
Treba napomenuti da svaki steroid baziran na DHT-u moze posluziti za ovu svrhu kao sto je anadrol,masteron...

Treba napomenuti da je ovo sve teorijski i netreba uzimati ovo kao utvrdeni standard jer ima i mnogo razlicitih misljenja od ovog iznesenog.

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TESTOSTERONE IS THE SPINAL CORD OF THE BODYBUILDER,,NO SYNTETIC TESTOSTERONE = NO BODYBUILDER
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The pros are using good old-fashioned Testosterone, Deca, Dianabol, insulin in the off-season, and GH pre-contest. Nothing fancy. But they're the pros because they're gifted, dedicated, and have been at it a long freaking time. Anybody that tells you different is either full of shit or trying to sell you garbage.



My goals are very simple:

1. Break The Law
2. Look Good Naked

Steroids will cause your kidneys to explode, your heart to blow a ventricle, and your liver to squirt out of your arse, fly across the room, and knock the cat off the futon.

The most obvious symptom is death which would hardly be missed by even the most focused and intensive bodybuilder.

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« Reply #4 on: December 02, 2007, 10:53:15 PM »
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Kad se dobije deca-dick....koliko to traje?
Od kojih sve aas se to moze desit?
Kako to izbijec?

 
Prvo trebas znati da deca dick nije nesto sto ce zagarantavano svi dobiti koji probaju, dakle moras znati kako generalno reagujes na decu.
Razlika je izmedu deca dica i manjeg pada libida koji se uglavnom desava kada se koristi deca durabolin bez androgena.Deca dick se moze desiti kod spoja individualne preosjetljivosti na decu i nedostatka prisustva androgena.
Licno iz mog iskustva nije bas puno ljudi imalo deca dick i oni koji su imali koristili su samo decu kao ciklus.Ostali koji su ukljucili androgene osjete samo mali pad libida (mozda) i u 99% situacija tezi/duzi oporavak poslije ciklusa u odnosu na cikluse koji nisu sadrzavali decu.
E sad koliko ti treba androgena je isto individualna stvar nekome treba samo proviron da ubaci a nekome treba uduplana doza androgena u odnosu na kolicinu deca durabolina.
Trajanje deca dicka je par mjeseci poslije ciklusa :wallbash1: Naravno to nije fiksno kao i vecina stvari kad su u pitanju steroidi.
Treba znati da je poznat i tren dick koji se desava u veoma manjem obimu.
Jos jedan od razloga zbog kojeg se govori da neka vrsta testa mora biti osnova svakog ili vecine ciklusa!!!


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TESTOSTERONE IS THE SPINAL CORD OF THE BODYBUILDER,,NO SYNTETIC TESTOSTERONE = NO BODYBUILDER
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The pros are using good old-fashioned Testosterone, Deca, Dianabol, insulin in the off-season, and GH pre-contest. Nothing fancy. But they're the pros because they're gifted, dedicated, and have been at it a long freaking time. Anybody that tells you different is either full of shit or trying to sell you garbage.



My goals are very simple:

1. Break The Law
2. Look Good Naked

Steroids will cause your kidneys to explode, your heart to blow a ventricle, and your liver to squirt out of your arse, fly across the room, and knock the cat off the futon.

The most obvious symptom is death which would hardly be missed by even the most focused and intensive bodybuilder.

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« Reply #5 on: December 03, 2007, 12:42:49 AM »
a sta je to tren dick :blush:
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« Reply #6 on: December 03, 2007, 12:54:48 AM »
Isto kao i deca dick!!!
Pad libida.
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TESTOSTERONE IS THE SPINAL CORD OF THE BODYBUILDER,,NO SYNTETIC TESTOSTERONE = NO BODYBUILDER
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The pros are using good old-fashioned Testosterone, Deca, Dianabol, insulin in the off-season, and GH pre-contest. Nothing fancy. But they're the pros because they're gifted, dedicated, and have been at it a long freaking time. Anybody that tells you different is either full of shit or trying to sell you garbage.



My goals are very simple:

1. Break The Law
2. Look Good Naked

Steroids will cause your kidneys to explode, your heart to blow a ventricle, and your liver to squirt out of your arse, fly across the room, and knock the cat off the futon.

The most obvious symptom is death which would hardly be missed by even the most focused and intensive bodybuilder.

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« Reply #7 on: December 03, 2007, 02:27:36 PM »
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sta znaci 17-alpha-alkylated...

Steroidi koji se uzimaju oralno su veoma podlozni dektivaciji prilikom prvog prolaza kroz jetru osima ako se njihova hemijska struktura nepromjeni.
Kada progutas neki oralni steroid on ulazi u stomak gdje se djelimicno razlaze i odlazi u tanko crijevo.Tanko crijevo sadrzi grupu enzima koji se nazivaju CYP-450.
Ovi enzimi dalje razlazu steroid u pokusaju da ga deaktiviraju.
Potom se steroid apsorbira kroz crijevne mukoza celije i transportuje se kroz portalnu venu jetre (velika vena koja nosi krv iz digestivnog trakta do jetre) radi daljne deaktivacije u neaktivnu supstancu.Ova supstanca se onda kunjugira sa glukuronskom kiselinom i izlucuje u urinu.
Cak i do 100% steroida moze biti deaktivirano u ovom procesu.
Tako sto se promjeni struktura steroidne molekule deaktivacija se moze znatno smanjiti.
Oralni steroidi postaju oralno aktivni tako sto im se doda alkalna hemijska grupa (metil ili etil)na alfa poziciju zamjeni se atom hidrogena sa atomom karbona na 17 poziciji steroidne molekule i odatle dolazi naziv 17alpha-methyl/ethyl.
Ova modifikacija stvara veliki stres za jetru i utice na enzime i druge hemikalije u tijelu i zbog toga se mora ograniciti unos oralnih AAS.
Andriol je primjer oralnog steroida koji nije alkalisan i zbog toga je i poprilicno neucinkovit osim u manjoj mjeri kada se uzimaju gigantske doze.
Injektivni winstrol je primjer alkalisanog steroida koji se moze i piti isto kao i oralni winstrol bez ikakve razlike u iskoristljivosti
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TESTOSTERONE IS THE SPINAL CORD OF THE BODYBUILDER,,NO SYNTETIC TESTOSTERONE = NO BODYBUILDER
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The pros are using good old-fashioned Testosterone, Deca, Dianabol, insulin in the off-season, and GH pre-contest. Nothing fancy. But they're the pros because they're gifted, dedicated, and have been at it a long freaking time. Anybody that tells you different is either full of shit or trying to sell you garbage.



My goals are very simple:

1. Break The Law
2. Look Good Naked

Steroids will cause your kidneys to explode, your heart to blow a ventricle, and your liver to squirt out of your arse, fly across the room, and knock the cat off the futon.

The most obvious symptom is death which would hardly be missed by even the most focused and intensive bodybuilder.

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« Reply #8 on: December 03, 2007, 03:14:41 PM »
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...kada dajem injekciju ponekad iscuri tecnost nakon sto uklonim iglu?
Nekad i do 0.25ml...

Hmmm 0.25 ml je puno  :wow:
Zasto imam osjecaj da ti samo izvuces iglu i gledas kako tecnost curi :crazy:

1.) Nakon sto zavrsis aplikaciju sacekaj 10 sekundi prije nego sto izvadis iglu.
2.) Odmah po vadenju igle uzmi sterilnu gazu ili nesto drugo sterilno i primjeni pritisak na mjesto aplikacije, ne prejako i sa laganim masiranjem da bi smanji mogucnost nastanka "grudvica" il ti sterilnog abcesa.
3.) Provjeri sad je li sta curi ;)

Drugi nacin da ne bi gubio dragocjenu tekucinu je primjena "Z-track" tehnike.Ova metoda je i izmisljena da se nebi gubio dragocjeni lijek.
1.)Na mjestu gdje ces se ubadati malo povuces kozu u jednu ili dugu stranu i drzis je do kraja (imas sliku dole).
2.)Obavis ubadanje.
3.)Izvuces iglu i odmah pustis kozu
4.)Pozeljno je da opet primjenis korak broj 2 odozgo.

Na ovaj nacin lijek ostaje "zarobljen" ispod koze.
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If I had it to do all over again, the only injectable I would ever use is Testosterone. I wouldn't waste one shot on anything else!!!
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TESTOSTERONE IS THE SPINAL CORD OF THE BODYBUILDER,,NO SYNTETIC TESTOSTERONE = NO BODYBUILDER
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Natural





The pros are using good old-fashioned Testosterone, Deca, Dianabol, insulin in the off-season, and GH pre-contest. Nothing fancy. But they're the pros because they're gifted, dedicated, and have been at it a long freaking time. Anybody that tells you different is either full of shit or trying to sell you garbage.



My goals are very simple:

1. Break The Law
2. Look Good Naked

Steroids will cause your kidneys to explode, your heart to blow a ventricle, and your liver to squirt out of your arse, fly across the room, and knock the cat off the futon.

The most obvious symptom is death which would hardly be missed by even the most focused and intensive bodybuilder.

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« Reply #9 on: December 04, 2007, 02:28:16 PM »
Sta je to libido?
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