Rasprava izmedu silvija samuela i milosa (Dec. 18 2007,11:17)
SILVIO:
Milos and drama anywhere he goes. Has anyone stop to asked or tried to know for what reasons and popose is milos sending those old pictures taken since march 07, before the ARNOLD CLASSIC to be posted here, i mean on flelonline, when then he did refused to post all my training pictures he took then, while training in his gym, even when my sponsor who are the owner of this very broad did ask him to do that, but he poposely fufused. As if its not enough with his own broad, or his crossing over to getbig, now he wants to rule here as he always said. When ever Milos comes up with things like this, surely he is up to making some damang or some evil plan. Come to think about it, in the pictures posted to start with, Non of those guys are with him, officially and un official, I am myself cos i love to take my time and learn the right way, no matter what.
silvio - officially nothing with this man, fully trained by charle
glass.
jeol - officially no more with him, now with charle glass.
hida - un official, but so affaid to annonce his leaving, but
has since moved to NY, un happy with his situation
but still, he's been hold tie by milos.
lukewood-un official, but off from the sean at the moment
as most of the experiment did put him to sick bed
close to a show, and milos will always clean his
hands off and ask his name to be mentioned.
manolo-un official, station and train now alone in spain,
waiting to end his pro card, then milos will claim the
glory of doing heaven and earth. just like in my own
cares.
Only God knows whats his next plan, and i would not say anything if my picture did not appraed there. i would still want to see milos pick up and NPC new comer and train to became a pro, and not waiting at his gym, when the pro are sent to do a photo shoot, then he will used that chance to talk to then. If only he could live me alone and off from his life.
Thanks and God blessed.
S.S.
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MILOS:
Wow..."Nigerian Nightmare" or should I call you - Silvia?
Started your day on the left foot? Overly sensitive...or just "loving" as usual?
Drama, drama, drama...anywhere I go...?
That makes me - DRAMATIC...
Oh well...for your information my POPOSE to send these old photos to FLEONLINE was exactly to make sure that one of your sponsors -AMI (you know, just ONE of two major sponsorships I negotiated for you earlier this year - FOR FREE to help you stay in US and pursue your dream) chooses the photos they want to post on the net.
As I have posted HUNDREDS of your photos on the boards with intention to give you visibility and show the world incredible improvements you have made while training in my gym - which will catapult you as a front runner for upcoming shows and get you your lifetime dream: qualification for the Olympia (something you tried to accomplish in 2006 several times without success).
Interestingly - after few weeks of doing things slightly different (MY WAY ) you started shocking the world and even with bad judging - menage to qualify for the Olympia in EVERY SINGLE OUTING with me in your corner.
You could have won or placed second in the Ironman...and repeat that week later in Sacramento...You were somehow overlooked (in your interpretation: you were punished by being with me...) but nevertheless YOU GOT 2 endorsement contracts in less than 2 months staying with me, got paid for numerous photoshoots I organized and negotiated the fees (higher than usual), got prize money and numerous other things...with HARDLY ANY EXPENSES at all (as your accommodation was TAKEN CARE OFF by me - first 40 days with exception of maybe 3-4 nights total...)
It is known in civilized world that you should not bite the hand that feeds you...and with your attitude and true personality that ALWAYS eventually comes on surface - you will have few issues in the very near future...I am convinced.
So hopefully - you can wise-up before is too late.
As for dramatic Milos - I am doing what I always did - enjoy bodybuilding to the fullest and HELP others every way I can.
Photos I sent to FLEONLINE - (my sponsor who are the owner of this very broad did ask him to do that, but he poposely fufused) - are just fraction of hundreds I sent and will continue to send to their office as I never POPOSELY FUFUSED to post any of your training photos - rather I was TOLD NOT TO POST them and the first one I did (New York show) made so much mess that caused a lot of DRAMA (my middle name I guess).
And for your info: above shown athletes are ALL MY TEAM MEMBERS in good standing - ALL except you...off course.
Thanks and God blessed.
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SILVIO:
Milos, this is just what you needed, drama and issueds back and forward. There are peolpe who dose more valueble helps and things to people without any comment, but you always claim glory on my victory even till now that, i no longer train with you. Anywhere don't forget that if your ways was the best for me, i would have stayed with you, rather then leaving, and besides my body was not to be used by your experiment on stuffs, (your way) to take my shape away from real fisic of bbing. It is a shame for you to mention about my contract negociation on this board, when my very sponsor know what you where doing on the deal, and the doble game that you did play, but thank God finally i did it my way and i sign the contract without your so called negociation not even your present. I know it makes no diffences to you, even when you wash your dirty tracks in the public, but i will not and never will i dance your way. keep to you life and forget about me. I do not need any favour from you milos, my sponsors do have more recent pictures of me, and not in any way they will ask for any picture of mine, from you mostly when they all know your deals.
Stay blessed, go and look for others further up coming then sing your glory.
Thanks.
S.S.
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MILOS:
Silvia, Silvia, Silvia...
You are forgetting that YOU STARTED this dialog and not me.
It is "your sponsor" that posted these photos and not me - if you didn't notice...and there are photos of great friend of mine and exceptional athlete JOEL STUBS whom I will be preparing for the 2008 pro season...
You were there on the photo - just as a "bystander" and not the star you see yourself to be.
I don't need neither drama nor glory - I had enough of both...
What I am doing on daily bases is something you will never comprehend as it is out of your grasp: HELPING PEOPLE...Just like I helped you - WHEN YOU NEEDED THE HELP THE MOST...
Now, since you are "the enemy" you are the one poring oil on the fire which is long tamed...but so be it.
My little Silvia - I eat people like you for breakfast so if you want to "play the game" I am all for it...
The difference is - I will stick with the truth and truth only - and you can continue your ways...
As far as you being my "experiment" you are the first one stating you never take ANYTHING YOU DON'T KNOW ABOUT IT...until your friend Sergio Garcia had "something to say"...Now - you are suggesting that I claim glory on your victory?
Which victory are you talking about?
Your improvements in Koloseum were visible DAILY and sad thing is: you didn't learn a thing...but than again for someone who doesn't know the difference between protein and carbohydrates I guess I shouldn't expect nothing more...
As you suggest:
"I know it makes no diffences to you, even when you wash your dirty tracks in the public, but i will not and never will i dance your way."
There is no diffences to me, even when I was my dirty tracks in the public and please you will not and never will you dance my way...
And please don't flatter yourself - I am not doing YOU a favor by giving your photos to your sponsor...It just happens to be that under the circumstances I took you everywhere with me - so you are on most of the photos I have given to MY SPONSOR...
And your "negociations" are different story which I would love to expose and one of these days I certainly will - as it seems to be quite a "twist" of the truth - as you will interpret what really happened.
Before you came to California - you had ZILCH and you cried repeatedly to me (and others) how desperate you are...
I made things happen for you and negotiated TWO contracts as you were afraid to speak and had no idea what to ask for (as you never made a dime from sponsors before...).
As I managed to DOUBLE one of your contracts you were grateful for about a minute...and that's OK with me...
What goes around Silvia - comes around...
See you around.
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MILOS:
Here is just one of many posts everyone could find on my website:
MILOS, MORE THEN A FRIEND BUT GOD GIFT
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THANK GOD I FOUND YOU, THERE IS NO AMOUNTS OF MONEY ON EARTH, THAT I COULD OFFER FOR YOUR GIFTED HANDS, THOUGH THAT´S APART, BUT YOU WILLINGLY AND OPEN-MINDED DECIDED TO PICKED ME UP AND PUT A FINISHING TOUCH ON THE MISSING PARTS OF ME, AND FOR A LITTLE TIME THAT WE BEEN TOGETHER PROFESSIONALLY, YOUR GREAT JOB IS MAKING A GREAT CHANGES AND MORE EFFECT ON ME, AS WELL AS IN MY PREPARATIONS FOR THIS YEAR SHOW. MILOS, I THANK SO MUCH, AND I WISH YOU MORE WISDOM AND DOMINION ON ALL YOUR UNDERTAKINGS, THANKS ONCE AGAIN FOR SEEING THE PERSON IN ME, HAVING THE CONFIDENT IN ME, AND UNDERSTANDING MY WAYS LIFE AND THINKINGS, MOREOVER, THANKS SO MUCH FOR MAKING ME TO HAVE A NEW HOPE OF LIFE IN BODYBUILDING, AND ALL THE EXPERIENCES I AM LEARNING FROM YOU.
YOU ARE TRULY A GOD SENT PERSON TO MY LIFE, AND MORE THEN JUST A FRIEND, YOU DO MEANS MUCH TO ME.
THANKS.
SILVIO SAMUEL
Interestingly - he changed his mind after getting 2 endorsement contracts, placed on the money in EVERY SHOW he entered, had his accommodation and many other expenses taken care off...etc...etc
Now, as someone from the FLEXONLINE posted some of the photos I emailed to the office he finds the reason to jump in with "drama" comments...???
One thing everyone in industry knows - and that is...I have no problem speaking my mind..
Sad truth is: Silvio had a 'reason" to start this dialog...and I am more than willing to communicate...Always was, always will be...as I stand behind everything I say or do...
BTW - numerous posts alike are posted on my board
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SILVIO:
Milos, the thank you letter is clear and safe for everyone to see, it tells when you tried to show me that you were the only good and honest man in this business, every other person around who tired to come closer to us where snakes.I will not play your way, as i know, you like back and forth sense less talks, and lies. This will be my last answer to you what so ever, as i will not add to the game that you are known for or will i make this board so boring like that of yours. If I had given you the 20% of each of my contracts of which you asked for we wouldn't have any problems now. Why don't you tell everyone?
How many times did I sign checks to the sum of $2000, to pay part of your gym bills, when you sent your wife to tell me. I still have the other part of the check, as a proof.
How many times have I paid for your family goods at sam's and costo, not 1,2,3,4,5, even when you will go with us, paying with my credit card the sums of $400 to $600.
Why not tell the turth? How many times have I paid for your wife's flight tickets to attend shows, all using my credit card.
what about the protein shake that you charge me $16 for each one yet you tell the world the you helped me for free. Actually you did, but later you change your mind and asked me to pay even from jaunary when i came into U.S. why don't you tell them the bill you gave me on each show you said they were free, Then it tunrd out to be 10k for ironman preparation, $10,000 for sacramento pro, and $10,000 for the arnold classic, this was after I signed my contract. Finally you settled on $10,000. With all my placing on the 3 shows, I earned $14,000 and i was paying my hotel as well, which you lied that you paid for me. These are the things I wanted people to know. If you need more proof I will turn them in to my sponsors, so that everyone can see who the real liar is. I will not write or entertain any more of this nonsense of yours.
Hope that you and your family have a wonderful chirstmas and a happy New Year.
S.S.
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SARCEV:
Well...I see you are learning few things (like how to write...but than again MAYBE, just maybe - you had someone else writing this last post for you...) but MOST IMPORTANTLY content of the letter shows TRUE YOU.
So, let's start with your proofs.
Here is your chance of the lifetime for you to present me as a lier (as you call me).
How many checks have you written to me in amount of $2000.00?
A SINGLE ONE...
So, as you have "other part of the check(s)"...as you would like to present that was more than one check - do me a favor - POST THE COPY OF THE OTHER PART(S)...
But, I do want to remind you "imaginary" checks do not count...as you will also have to present the proof from the bank (in case you do something so "like you" - forge a few just as easy as you lie about everything else here...probably - without even blinking...
It is truly sad to see how low you can go...but I am delighted to see you showing your true face (one of the few you are having)...
Thankfully ONE OF YOUR SPONSORS knows the whole story - as he knew from day one EVERYTHING that I did for you...
Your best friend Robin knows that man very well - and so are you...
Maybe you should go to his office and report everything as you claim to be and see how will "your story" be received...
Fortunately - many people know me...and they know my athletes...Many will be able to tell HOW MUCH I CHARGE my athletes so we could compare the stories...
Your TOTAL PAYMENT of $2000.00 is FRACTION of money I have spent HELPING YOU stay and prepare in California for almost 2 months.
As you are going to show us proofs - can you produce your HOTEL BILL PAYMENT for your first 40 days of stay?
And speaking of "paying for my family" in sams and costco is really pathetic...After I paid even for your groceries for weeks - there was few times that I didn't take you to the store but someone else and you surprisingly offered to pay ONCE in the Blue Moon...and you are not ashamed to actually claim what you (or someone else for you) wrote here?
But, to cut story short as I'll quote you:"These are the things I wanted people to know. If you need more proof I will turn them in to my sponsors, so that everyone can see who the real liar is."
and "i was paying my hotel as well, which you lied that you paid for me."
and last but not least: "why don't you tell them the bill you gave me on each show you said they were free, Then it tunrd out to be 10k for ironman preparation, $10,000 for sacramento pro, and $10,000 for the arnold classic, this was after I signed my contract. Finally you settled on $10,000."
So, my dear Silvia - here is your chance - SHOW the world ANY PROOF of anything you are saying:
1- Multiple $2000.00 check stubs
2- Payment for your hotel since you arrived up until 40 days later
3- My bills I gave you (fee request)...I am sure you've saved them and you can't wait to show it to the world...so PLEASE: GO AHEAD...I sure want to see them myself...Also, "my fees" could/should be confirmed with at least ONE of my athletes whom I charged a fee...(don't you think that someone could CONFIRM same story of how much I charge everyone)...
etc...etc
I'll leave you with this...as FOR ONCE IN YOUR LIFETIME maybe you could back up your words...
My family and I will have a wonderful Christmas - as ALWAYS and a happy New Year...with or without your sincere "hope"...
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