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Offline vuksa

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« Reply #130 on: May 30, 2010, 07:31:58 PM »
retko koji txt duzi od 3-4 recenice ne citam po forumima :evillaugh:
al se nekad dobro jelo

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« Reply #131 on: May 30, 2010, 07:36:19 PM »
Naucni svet ne diskutuje o tome, naucni svet je usvojio jedan od ta 2 kao trenutno najbolju teoriju, sa gomilom dokaza, opservacija, cinjenica.. :) I bez uvrede, ali ta lista od 10 razloga, deo nje su potpuno subjektivna licna misljenja, deo njih jednostavno nije tacan a deo je povezivanje baba i zaba.
U svakom slucaju necu vise u off.



..sem ako ne bude bilo preke potrebe :)

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« Reply #132 on: May 30, 2010, 07:40:49 PM »
A sad se i prica da su adam i eva bili crnci :lol:
..bez velikih odricanja, nema ni velikih rezultata..

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« Reply #133 on: May 30, 2010, 09:02:44 PM »
razlozi iz te liste su sasvim logicni, i ne povezuju oni babe i zabe nego teorija evolucije povezuje babe i zabe, ali u bukvalnom smislu  :wow:  :rolleyes01:
"No man has a right to be an amateur in the matter of physical training....what a shame it is for a man to grow old without ever seeing the beauty and strength of which his body is capable." Socrates 470-399 B.C.

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« Reply #134 on: May 30, 2010, 09:11:16 PM »
aj daj neki argument

harold urey i stanley miller su npr uzeli staklenu teglu...u nju stavili bazicne elemente, gasove koji su bili na zemlji u vreme nastanka zivota, pustili struju par puta da simuliraju atmosfersko praznjenje i dobili bazicne amino kiseline koje su prvi korak ka DNK ;) e sad...DNK jeste mnogo komplikovaniji od toga...ali zanimljivo je da ga nemaju samo ljudi vec i bakterije...a ti imas milion razlicitih bakterija sa razlicitim DNK ;)

evo ti vise ovde

http://www.answers.com/topic/carl-sagan


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« Reply #135 on: May 31, 2010, 12:54:00 AM »
Pa imas 10 vrlo jakih argumenata u onom tekstu  :dunno:

Uzmi recimo ovaj:
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No mutation that increases genetic information has ever been discovered.
Mutations which increase genetic information would be the raw material necessary for evolution. To get from “amoeba” to “man” would require a massive net increase in information. There are many examples of supposed evolution given by proponents. Variation within a species (finch beak, for example), bacteria which acquire antibiotic resistance, people born with an extra chromosome, etc. However, none of the examples demonstrate the development of new information. Instead, they demonstrate either preprogrammed variation, multiple copies of existing information, or even loss of information (natural selection and adaptation involve loss of information). The total lack of any such evidence refutes evolutionary theory.

Slazem se ja sa evolucijom kao menjanjem vrsta, recimo leptiri koji dodju u grad i postanu crni itd, ali to je samo permutacija redosleda u DNK. Kao da od 123456789 napravis 541236978 A da bi od leptira postala zaba njegov dnk mora da se promeni skroz, tj od 123 ti moras da dobijes 1264365124312431491125

kao sto rekoh ja tebe ne mogu da ubedim da je Bog stvorio svet, dovoljno mi je sasvim sto sam ja ubedjen u to, ali ne mozes ni ti mene nikakvim naucnim dokazima da ubedis u evoluciju jer ta teorija ima toliko mana i rupa da to boli ;)
"No man has a right to be an amateur in the matter of physical training....what a shame it is for a man to grow old without ever seeing the beauty and strength of which his body is capable." Socrates 470-399 B.C.

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« Reply #136 on: May 31, 2010, 01:00:14 AM »
I znam za milerov eksperiment naravno, dobili su amino kiseline vau, ali zar ti stvarno verujes da muckanjem elemenata u tegli dovoljno dugo vremena te aminokiseline mogu da se ispajaju tako da dobijes zeca???

jesi procitao ovo uopste:
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Evolutionists admit that the chances of evolutionary progress are extremely low. Yet, they believe that given enough time, the apparently impossible becomes possible. If I flip a coin, I have a 50/50 chance of getting heads. To get five “heads” in a row is unlikely but possible. If I flipped the coin long enough, I would eventually get five in a row. If I flipped it for years nonstop, I might get 50 or even 100 in a row. But this is only because getting heads is an inherent possibility. What are the chances of me flipping a coin, and then seeing it sprout arms and legs, and go sit in a corner and read a magazine? No chance. Given billions of years, the chances would never increase. Great periods of time make the possible likely but never make the impossible possible. No matter how long it’s given, non-life will not become alive.
"No man has a right to be an amateur in the matter of physical training....what a shame it is for a man to grow old without ever seeing the beauty and strength of which his body is capable." Socrates 470-399 B.C.

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« Reply #137 on: May 31, 2010, 02:24:49 AM »


:respect:  :yes:
"No man has a right to be an amateur in the matter of physical training....what a shame it is for a man to grow old without ever seeing the beauty and strength of which his body is capable." Socrates 470-399 B.C.

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« Reply #138 on: May 31, 2010, 03:20:39 AM »
ja ne shvatam opterecivanje ovim stvarima...ljudi se previse opterecuju stvarima koje nisu u stanju da shvate u datom trenutku ali ipak vole da o njima pricaju i da daju sebi za pravo da donose konacne zakljucke...kada mi neko dokaze da bog postoji prihvaticu to...kada mi neko dokaze bilo koju drugu teoriju prihvaticu to...

kazes da u teoriji evolucije postoje propusti...ali sta je sa biblijskim prikazom boga i verom uopste?evolucija je mozda nepotpuna i falicna ali je makar racionalan pokusaj objasnjenja u ovom vremenu i sa informacijama i tehnologijom i mnogo vecom svesti o stvarnosti i realnosti nego prica od pre 2000+ godina...ja iskreno ne mogu da shvatim kako danas sa svim dostupnim informacijama ljudi i dalje imaju potrebu za necim visim...necim vecim od njih samih...ovo nije nikakvo omalovazavanje vec samo moj neki pogled na stvari...

opustite se i zivite produktivan zivot bez namernog nanosenja pakosti i stete drugima...volite i budite srecni i budite otvoreni ka novim saznanjima...jer sto vise znate vise ste svesni...

Peace xD
Out of the night that covers me,
Black as the pit from pole to pole,
I thank whatever gods may be
For my unconquerable soul.

In the fell clutch of circumstance
I have not winced nor cried aloud.
Under the bludgeonings of chance
My head is bloody, but unbowed.

Beyond this place of wrath and tears
Looms but the Horror of the shade,
And yet the menace of the years
Finds and shall find me unafraid

It matters not how strait the gate,
How charged with punishments the scroll,
I am the master of my fate:
I am the captain of my soul.

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« Reply #139 on: May 31, 2010, 06:18:56 AM »
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ideja da smo imali crnu kozu mi je bila vise nego interesantna

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
sada mi jasno
bilo smo crnci i od tuda nekima 23-24 cm  :yes: :yes: :yes: :clap: :clap: :clap:

roger that